Drake University Hosts Thought Provoking Debate

on December 10th ABC broadcast a GOP debate from Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. It was the first major debate with Gingrich as the front runner. Here are some key takeaways:

Mitt Romney defended himself on “Romneycare” when Rick Perry again claimed that Romney’s book said that he wanted the Massachusetts healthcare plan to be a model for the nation (implying at the federal level). Romney responded sternly (and awkwardly) by offering Rick Perry a $10,000 bet that he had in fact misquoted him. Romney then clarified the quote from his book which actually says that each state should consider such a plan, because they are the laboratories of Democracy. Mitt could not have made his opinion or past comments more clear, but he’ll probably continue to be asked about them, and the weird $10,000 bet offer may irk some Iowans come caucus time.

Shameless Plug for My Father: On the topic of Mitt Romney and healthcare, Dr. Keith Kantor, is working with the Romney campaign in a limited context to provide information about how to lower healthcare costs by promoting all natural food with a Blue Ribbon Advisory Panel. Details here, be sure to check it out.

Newt Gingrich got an opportunity to reexplain his position on illegal immigration, clearly stating that he is not for amnesty, but rather a realistic plan in which people who have been living in the country for years upon years can receive residency (not citizenship). Decisions would be made on a local level with his plan. He refuses to support a plan where families who have been living in America, paying taxes, have children and grandchildren who live here, and are part of communities, and churches will be hunted down and deported. Good for Newt for saying something that may not be politically savvy in terms of gaining numbers in the polls, but is honest. Of course, he’d  quickly admit that it’ll all moot until the border is secured.

The real high point of the debate came when Newt Gingrich stood by his past comments regarding the Palestinians. Previously he stated,

“We’ve had an invented Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs, and were historically part of the Arab community, and they had a chance to go many places. And for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and I think it’s tragic.”

He explained that the Palestinian argument for land is based on historical falsehood, and that the term “Palestinian” is a relatively new word that began being used after the creation of Israel. Romney argued that Gingrich should be more careful of what he says as his comments could cause “tumult,” and further claimed that he would exercise “sobriety” in his comments if he was to become President. Newt didn’t back off his comments, explaining that Palestinian textbooks teach hate towards the Jews. Michele Bachmann waffled on standing fully behind Gingrich, but did spend some time talking how her experience seeing the hatred written in their elementary school textbook, quoting one textbook that used murdering Jews as an example in a children’s arithmetic problem.

Did anything else really stand out to you? Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments below.

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4 thoughts on “Drake University Hosts Thought Provoking Debate

  1. Shameless plug for me. If you missed the debate you can watch it at http://phoebe53.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/miss-the-rep-debate-12-10-11-video-here/

    I’ll also shamelessly plug Ron Paul. In the video at approx. 44:30 Congressman Paul says it all when answering the question on family values. He said that, even though it’s important that you’re not a whoredog like Newt (my choice of phrase, not what he actually said) that your oath of office is just as important and at times he’s been perplexed at finding himself standing alone in a vote.

    On Romney’s $10,000 bet to Perry, that just showed how out of touch he is with the plight of the “former” middle class. How many of us have $10,000 to throw away on a bet? He has previously admitted that he’s worth an estimated 192 million to 250 million. \

    Bachmann just embarrassed herself by invoking Cain. She has come out as the proverbial shameless hussey and it’s not doing her any favors.

    Newt, to me, seemed tired and lacked the luster of his usual fight. I think ABC’s question of family values was directed toward Newt but as low handed as that may seem it’s still a legitimate question. He may be straight forward but that’s not always for the best, he needs to learn some diplomacy. I shouldn’t cast stones though since I’m similar to him in that respect but then again I’m not running for President and I’m not in the position of creating world peace.

    Perry did better tonight but I still don’t believe he’s up to the task and he was always near last on my list anyway because of his Gardasil mandate. He can say sorry all he wants to but he came damn close to endangering the lives of thousands of Texas young girls and if the Texas legislature had not stopped him this would have stayed a mandate.

  2. Ron Paul was fine. He has a solid core, but is too extreme to expand. He’ll get his 10% and lose just like last time. He’s a special case. I respect him for his vigor and principle, but don’t agree with him on Israel.

    The family questions was obviously directed at Newt. He was calm, showed humility, and had that great rebuttal about Mitt being a career politician had he beat Ted Kennedy in ’94.

    Newt stood up for Israel and frankly it was refreshing. I’m glad he did it. It’s time we have a president that says what is right rather than a Obama-style president who says what people want to hear and tries to make nice with everyone.

    Rick Perry seems less intellectual than Newt or Mitt, Gardasil vaccine aside. He clearly lied about the quote from from Mitt’s book, a disqualifier in my book.

    Mitt obviously shouldn’t have thrown out that $10k bet, but he was right and it is upsetting that Rick Perry’s lie provoked a mistake. If the fact that he has done well for himself due to his great business savvy is reason for someone to not vote for him, then we’re in big trouble. If anything, his success make me more likely to vote for him.

    Bachmann was garbage. He had a bad debate in my view.

  3. I think people misunderstand Paul’s stance on Israel. He supports Israel but says, rightfully so, that they have to be able to make their own decisions without permission from the mighty U.S., if they want our assistance they can ask and we’ll be there for them.

  4. I agree with you except that last line… “and we’ll be there for them.” I don’t think a Ron Paul presidency will have America “there for them.” It’d be an upgrade over the current administration where Obama has a strong distaste for Israel, but he’s not half as pro-Israel as Newt.

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